April 20, 2023

S3E1 Is the Earth Flat, Hollow, or Been Sucked in a Black Hole?

The Unofficial Official Story team is back with a bang for the third season of "The Unofficial Official Story"! We're all about the paranormal, conspiracies, unexplained phenomena, cryptids, and true crime - basically, anything that gets our hearts...

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The Unofficial Official Story team is back with a bang for the third season of "The Unofficial Official Story"! We're all about the paranormal, conspiracies, unexplained phenomena, cryptids, and true crime - basically, anything that gets our hearts racing and our minds whirring. We're a curious bunch, and we're not afraid to admit it!

But don't get us wrong - we're not just all talk. We're also keen to experience paranormal activities for ourselves, even if we're a little skeptical about it all. And speaking of new experiences, we're thrilled to introduce our new host, the hilarious and talented Cat Alvarado! She's got a fascinating background, growing up in the City of Angels and making a name for herself in the world of comedy and writing.

Of course, we can't resist a good conspiracy theory, and we've got some doozies for you this season. Have you heard about the flat earth theory? Or the hollow earth theory? And what about the wild idea that the earth has been sucked into a black hole? We'll be debating these and other philosophical questions about the nature of knowledge and consciousness.

But we're not all serious business - we like to have a little fun too! For example, have you ever considered the inefficiency of cows as a food source? We have, and we've got some alternative ideas - like eating crickets instead! And speaking of saving the planet, we'll be discussing the idea of reducing the world's population to solve environmental issues.

So buckle up, folks - it's going to be a wild ride this season on "The Unofficial Official Story"!

You can also support our show by becoming a Patreon supporter at https://www.patreon.com/unofficialofficialstory

LINKS & RESEARCH

Our researchers do most of their "research" on the Internet, so take our "facts" for what they are. With that in mind, much of the information we got for this episode was gleaned from the following sources:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/04/04/only-two-thirds-of-american-millennials-believe-the-earth-is-round/?sh=3b1f0fe27ec6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_flat_Earth_beliefs

https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/flat-earthers-what-they-believe-and-why/

https://www.ranker.com/list/celebrities-who-believe-in-conspiracy-theories/mike-rothschild?&collectionId=1406&li_source=LI&li_medium=desktop-next-list&l=2387374

https://www.google.com/search?q=famous+flat+earthers&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS1039US1039&oq=famous+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0i20i263i512j0i433i512j46i199i433i465i512j0i433i512j69i60j69i61.1269j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#ip=1

https://www.britannica.com/topic/flat-Earth

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ABOUT US

What are "they" not telling us? We'll find out, figure out, and, when all else fails, make up the missing pieces to some of the most scandalous conspiracies, unexplained phenomena, and true crime affecting our world today. Join comedian Dwayne Perkins, writer Koji Steven Sakai, and comedian/actor/writer Cat Alvarado on The Unofficial Official Story Podcast every month, and by the end of each episode, we'll tell you what's really...maybe...happening.

CREDITS

The intro and outro song was created by Brian "Deep" Watters. You can hear his music at https://soundcloud.com/deepwatters.

Hosts: Cat Alvarado, Dwayne Perkins, and Koji Steven Sakai

Written by Koji Steven Sakai

Edited and Produced by Koji Steven Sakai

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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. It's
written three times on a page, so

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I said it three times. Hi. Hey guys, this is Season three,

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Episode one of the Unofficial Official Story. I'm Dwayne and I'm pretty stoked,

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and I'm Koji and I'm excited about
the new season, and I'm the

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new host cat Alvarado, and I'm
relieved that this wasn't a whole plot to

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murder me in the background. Right, Well, don't speak too soon.

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Yeah, the day is out over. I really elaborate. I watched way

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too much True crimes, but I
just think everything's a plot to secretly get

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me. It's a problem being a
New Yorker. I'm not mad at that.

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That's how you should think it's safe. Yes. Absolutely. Unfortunately,

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our original third member of this group, Jennifer, isn't able to continue being

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a permanent host on the show anymore. Although she won't be on every month,

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you'll still hear from her from time
to time. Jennifer, we love

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you and can't wait to have you
back on soon. This is a podcast

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where we tell you the official story. We look at the paranormal conspiracies,

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unexplained phenomena, cryptids and true crime
and by the end, we'll tell you

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what really maybe happy you can take
it to the bank, but the monopoly

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bank. Yeah, And on her
birthday. In this episode, we're asking

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the question, is the earth flat
hollow? Or has it been sucked into

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a black hole? Don't don't,
don't now. Usually this is a way.

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Is that a copyrighted music that we
just played? No? Absolutely,

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Okay, it's not even music.
How don't we get elevated to that?

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To that level? Usually this is
where we chat with our guests. But

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since we have a new host,
we thought we'd get to know Cat.

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Cat Alvarado is an award winning stand
up comedian, writer, and actress.

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She's been seen on LMAO and PBS's
First Nations Comedy Experience and perform to some

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of the nation's top comedy festivals.
Kat is about to release our first comedy

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album, Congrats off White Blonde Medicine. What a great name, Cat is

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all so they create a The Villains
of History podcast, which is a mashup

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of history and true crime. She's
made numerous appearances on the popular Real Rejects

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YouTube channel, which she offers reactions
and analysis on ghosts and hauntings. On

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an ongoing spiritual quest desperately wants to
experience the paranormal with fancial skeptical tendencies often

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get in the way. Welcome,
Hi, I'm so excited to be here.

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This is like the perfect podcast.
Well, tell me what what paranormal

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experience do you want to experience?
Else? I want a ghost I want

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an undeniable ghost experience. You've never
had a ghost experience? I mean I

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have, but they're always deniable,
Like there's always like the ghost is like

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woo, maybe not pretty much.
And I'm like the worst skeptic. I

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hate it. I wish that wasn't
me, and yet that is me.

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Like my one haunting experience I was. I still lived with an ax of

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mine and he had experiencing like a
bottle of a gallon of water fly across

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the room. I wasn't home,
I didn't see it. But he's like,

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I think our apartment's haunted. I
think it's haunted. I'm like,

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no, it's not. Until one
night we start hearing rustling of like bags,

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like plastic bags coming from the kitchen. Our cats were in the bathroom.

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That's why we would lock them.
We had a studio apartment, we'd

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have to like lock them in the
bathroom at night so that they would sleep

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in there and not make noise.
So the plastic bags from the kitchen were

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like, it's not the cats,
what could it be? And I have

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no explanation for what it was because
I leaned forward and I saw that the

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bags were in the middle of the
kitchen and the cupboard was wide open where

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I normally keep the bags. So
how did they get like five feet away

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from the cupboard into the middle of
the kitchen floor. That's crazy, I

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mean, that's yeah. Again,
that's not as strong as a gallon of

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milk flying across the room. But
what about aliens? You want to see

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aliens? Or I do want to
see aliens. But on the note to

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wrap up that haunting, I think
it was rats? Rats? Oh right,

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a rat? Now? Was it
a rat or a mouse? Who

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was you know, possessed by a
ghost? Perhaps maybe a family member or

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something who's coming back as a rat? Right right? Try to tell me

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something. No one, No one
had recently died, so I don't think

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it was anybody who like But do
you have a family member who like love

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plastic bags or something? Who shot
that vone? No bad ladies. Well

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would how would it change your life
if you saw one? Undeniably? I

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think I'd find myself forced to be
religious in some way interesting, And that's

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what happened to my ex. He
became super super religious because of his saw

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ghosts, because of his haunting experience. Yeah, he got super It sounds

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like you want to be proven wrong
in a sense, yeah, and you

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want to seek religion, but you
need some sort of a sign first,

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kind of a little bit. I
would say that's very close to how I

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feel something along those lines. Now, if I saw aliens, which would

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be cool, I think that would
be more terrifying because we don't know if

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they want to kill us. They
probably do, right, I mean,

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if you take the whole Columbus,
all right, that usually does it end

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well for the species that's lower,
right, But except Columbus didn't know when

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he was going to find right,
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here, they know we're here already. That's true, you know, So

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maybe they don't wish this home,
because if they did, we would and

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see him. You don't know this, but Asians are actually the gray aliens.

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So we've made episodes about that.
Really there's this whole stereotype about how

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the gray Aliens are hairless and small
and smart, which are all stereotypes for

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Asian people, And so there are
people online who believe that the Asians are

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secrets of the great descendants of the
are the descendants of Yeah, that's it's

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weird. So Kat, why don't
you tell us a little bit about where

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did you grow up and how did
you get into comedy? And right now,

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I grew up here in Los Angeles
in the valley, so I'm like

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a towny. I'm an absolute Los
Angeles townies from here here. I've pretty

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much lived here forever and almost never
left southern California. And how did you

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decide to become a writer, actor, comedian? I always love comedy growing

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up. It was something my dad
and I bonded about because he was a

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huge, huge Carlin fan, Leno
fan, and so we'd listened to that

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as a kid, like just in
the car driving to the zoo or whatever

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it was Carlin, which I didn't
understand what I was listening to, but

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like dad loved it, and as
I got older, the treat was like,

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Okay, if you're good, if
you get good grades, I'll let

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you stay up and watch Leno Wow
nice and so Sanna was always a big

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part of my life. And when
I was in my early twenties, I

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was going through a rough time and
my therapist was like, how about you

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try something that you've always wanted to
do but you never had the guts to

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try, just to get you out
of this funk. It's like okay.

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So I asked a friend who ran
a little show in the back of a

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pizza shop up in Santa Barbara if
I could do a spot. He's like,

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oh, nice. Nice. He's
like sure, but you know,

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if you bomb, like it's okay, Like people bomb all the time.

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Like he was really like building it
up that I was definitely gonna bomb.

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I was supposed to just do five
minutes, and they were like, yeah,

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she's gonna bomb. And then I
went up and then I crushed it.

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They let me do eight minutes and
I was like, oh my god,

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eight minutes you first set, Yeah, that's orageous. That really is

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destroyed. It was an amazing eight
minutes. And everybody was like what just

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happened? And I was like,
good question. I don't know either,

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And so I had to keep doing
it and ye, I feel like comedy

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is like a drug in a sense, especially when you when you do well

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in the first time out and that
adrenaline fuels you because then you're getting back

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to the first time. Yeah,
you know. Yeah, and somehow I

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think like the first two years I
did not bomb. Nice. Oh well,

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okay, I went years before I
bombed for the first time, which

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is wild. I bombed my second
time. Yeah. But but but to

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be fair to other comics were doing
something behind me too. It was sort

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of a little bit of hazing,
a little bit of hazing, but it

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was fun. Yeah, that's great, that's amazing. How do you How

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do your parents feel about your career? My dad's so proud. Oh good.

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He loves because he's just a stand
up fan. So it's like the

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best thing in the whole wide world
is for me to be a stand up

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just like Carlin. And in his
eyes, I'm like the funniest comic.

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Like he'll watch anybody on Netflix and
be like, I don't know why you

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don't have Netflix. Sure, that
was terrible. That's such a unique I

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don't know if you talk about it
on a stage, but that is like

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my mom was, Okay, with
me doing comedy, but it kind of

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snuck up on her. And in
most comics it's like their parents had to

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learn to be okay with it.
So like you having someone who a dad

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who just was on board from day
one, that's super unique. I've never

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heard that before. My mom is
the opposite though, so she makes up

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for all my dad's support by being
like, you need to quit. You

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need to hide your comic. Take
it off all of your social media,

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take it off all of your dating
apps. No one should know that you're

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a comic. I'm like, that's
not how it works. You have to

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tell everybody. Well, my mom
told me when I decided to be a

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writer. She said, well,
that's not my life. You could do

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whatever you want. And I was
like, okay, I mean I don't

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think that's support. But that's also
not saying no either. But it's not

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like arousing, like you should go
for it. Kind of got a thing,

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which I think I was looking for
at the time, But that's not

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bad. Yeah, really, I
think it's an immigrant parent thing. Are

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your first duration My mom is as
well. She's from Nicaraguash, she's a

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Latina, And yeah, I think
for them, like life is about like

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survival. There's very much that you
need. You need to make money.

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Are you kidding? Like how could
you risk your survival? Whereas for a

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lot of white people it's like,
I don't know, do what you want?

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All right, Well, let's get
the story straight once and for yeah,

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let's do it. Is the world
flect? According to a Yugo pool,

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two thirds of Americans aged between eighteen
and twenty four believe the world is

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round. If you're not good at
math, that means one third do not.

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Is that crazy? By the way, it's absolutely that two thirds of

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the people believe the world I mean, I don't know that's crazy. I

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mean, are they either undecided or
do they really like seriously believe it's not

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I was trying to find the actual
question just just maybe it's like a confusing

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question like do they do not not
believe or something? You know, do

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you know you think it's flat or
you're saying, we don't know if it's

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flat, we don't know if it's
around, bro, you know, Yeah,

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Well what's challenging. And here's the
thing is, I don't talk about

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this a lot, but I my
day job for a long time as I

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work in market research. I've been
a statistician for many years, and one

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of the challenges in research is asking
questions that people will answer honestly, because

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if they feel like there's any shame
in their response, they're going to say

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no, no, no, no. So if it was asked like,

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hey, do you believe the Earth
is flat, and they're embarrassed, they're

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going to say, of course,
I don't believe the Earth is flat.

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So if anything, I would say
these numbers might be skewed even more people

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think it's flat. Yes, I
would say more people think it's flat based

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off of biases that people tend to
not answer honestly if they feel any shame

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about it. The flat Earth theory
has existed for a long time before we

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even knew that the Earth was round, But this theory popped up again in

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early nineteenth century England, and in
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and now it's popping up again right
now in the Internet age. First thing

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you must know about the theory is
that everyone is lying if you want to

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these people right, especially the scientists
and the astronauts. The Earth does not

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rotate and that gravity is just an
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you're just thinking it drops. I
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Yeah, how could it be?
And I want to hop in and

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point out this whole idea that everyone
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this skepticism of institutions in general,
which is often linked back to either anti

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Semitism or generally fascistic tendencies. So, and the crazy thing about that is

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that, like, there are people
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believe in institutions. But it's black
people, yeah, in degenous people,

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yeah, yeah, gay people,
women, And it's usually the people who've

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kind of benefited from the institution that
think, like, oh, they were

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against us. Like I'm a Warriors
fan, you know, before the dynasty,

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as soon as Mark Jackson went there. But whenever they play Memphis or

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a lot of teams, Memphis especially, they're like the reps hate us,

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and I'm watching the game, I'm
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all the calls because if not,
Golden State is going to blow out most

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teams. You have two guys who
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things to keep the game close in
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most, Like Luca does that a
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But it's like it's like, dude, you shoot more free throws than anyone

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else, So how could how could
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also what is what's the benefit from
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I'm gonna make control but like,
yeah, I'm very skeptical of you know,

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institutions. But okay, it's it's
flat. Let's say it's flat,

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but you're telling me it's around.
What does that do for you? There's

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nothing, there's nothing to gain.
I don't pay a round earth tax,

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you know what I mean? Well, I think if your theory starts with

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everyone is lying either you know,
there's only two answers. You're either crazy

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or you're right right, right right. It's like that that old wo the

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Island joke in one of his movies
and he's talking to someone and a friend

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is talking to with the island and
his character and they go, you know

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this name for someone who thinks everyone
is against him? He goes, yeah,

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perceptive. Here are the three most
common models for what the Earth looks

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like. According to the flat earth
theory, the Earth is a disc and

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the stars, moon and Sun rotate
around it. It's kind of like similar

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to what we thought many mini moons
ago. Secondly, the Earth is flat

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and the moon and the Sun only
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Third one is Earth is a disc
and Anarctica is on the outer edges and

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goes on forever. Yeah, that's
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I thought it's like you, when
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but if you go all the way
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get zapped back to the other side. I've heard that something like that,

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but most of them that it just
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way or one way or the other, you just keep going. So that's

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more probable that it's just this flat
thing that goes on forever. Here's some

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of the claims that fat earthers have
proved the Earth is indeed flat. These

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were taken from a USA Today article
link in the show notes. First,

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Earth isn't curved or moving air pressure
couldn't exist without a container. The Earth

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is flat because cities cannot be upside
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they would think that, but okay, lack of stars and space photos means

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that they were created with a green
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in the daytime improves, the Earth
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clouds behind the sun suggested it orbits. The Earth isn't millions of miles away.

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don't know. I don't think I've
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life. I haven't seen it in
a photo either. Yeah, I don't

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even know how to explain that.
I think it's probably not a cloud,

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right, it's probably some other thing
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I don't think it's a cloud.
I don't think that exists, because just

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about every cloud, if it's in
front of the sun, it makes there

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be a shadow, right right.
Yeah. So who are the most famous

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people who are known flat earthers.
Obviously there's Kyrie Irving, Bob Shaquille O'Neal,

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which that one surprised me. I
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I had more respect. But actually
Kyrie, I think back okay,

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or he just said it publicly?
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threatened him enough. I think he
just got teased enough. But he explained

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why he went down this rat hole. And yeah, so Shock is the

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new owner of Papa John's. I
wonder if the Papa John's board was like,

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look, you cannot buy Papa John's
unless you have some batshit belief.

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I guess will be a flat earth, because racist wouldn't make sense. Yeah,

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Tila Tequila is she a star though
I haven't heard her do anything since

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like two dominated my space? Right, yeah, my space that's a while

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ago. Sorry, what's my space? I'm not that young? Draymond Green

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and Paris Jackson? Is that Michael
Jackson's son daughter? Yeah, I'm not

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sure which tell what. She had
a weird childhood, so we can't blame

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her. That's so. And now
for the third season, this is fun.

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I like this a lot. Call
you this is solid. For third

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season, we have a new segment
on our show. Since we are in

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the age of AI, Let's ask
chat GPT what it thinks chat GPT?

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Is the Earth flat? No,
the Earth is not flat. The overwhelming

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scientific evidence, supported by centuries of
observation and experimentation, clearly shows that the

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Earth is a roughly spherical shape.
This evidence includes observations of the Earth's curved

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shadow during lunar eclipses, the fact
that the horizon appears to dip below eye

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level at higher altitudes, and the
measurements of the Earth's circumference by ancient Greek

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astronomers and modern satellite technology. Denying
the roundness of the Earth is a conspiracy

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theory that has been debunked by science. Is the Earth hollow? The first

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incident we can find that the people
postulate the Earth might be hallow was way

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way way back in the late seventeenth
century. Here's a quote taken from the

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Politiff Polity fact link in the show
notes. Edmund Haley proposed to the Royal

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Society of London in the sixteen nineties
that the Earth consisted of nested spherical shells

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that spun in different directions and surrounded
a central core. Haley thought the space

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between shells mayhab had luminous atmospheres that
might have supported life. Is that describing

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like ball bearings? Kind of that's
what it sounds like. Oh, that

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reminds me of like JRR Tolkien and
like Middle Earth, Like this is kind

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of related to that or or King
Kong. Are there creatures? Yeah?

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But I'm like, did he even
have evidence for that. Is he just

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like coming up with stuff because I
don't know what it feels good, like

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it's crazy. And then what does
hallow mean? Like what kind of a

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like if it's just like a foot
like this stuff stuff stuff stuff. So

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that's not what he said here,
but if it stuff stuff stuf sup stuff.

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And then there's a hollow chord that's
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hollow? You see what I'm saying. But he sounds like there's like planets

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within the planet. I mean,
I don't hold anything against Edmund Haley only

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because back in the sixteen nineties,
I mean they didn't know a lot.

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We thought swimming made you a witch. They didn't have seizemic or like they

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couldn't. Yeah, they could have
go looked down everybody. What interests me

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about this though, is that,
you know, six hundred fears from now,

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what are they going to look at
what we believe and say those guys

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were so primotives, weren't aliens.
It was staring at you in the face

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of the whole time. One Asian
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The basic theory for is earth hollow
goes like this, this is taken directly

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from the University of Alaska's website in
the show notes. Of course, the

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crux of hollow earth theory is that
the Earth is a shell with walls about

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eight hundred miles thick. In the
polar regions, there are holes fourteen hundred

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miles across with edges that curve smoothly
from the outside of the shell around to

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the inside. A sea or surface
traveler could proceed over the edge of a

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hole like an ant crawling over the
lip of a coffee mug, from the

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outside to the inside, and not
be aware that he was actually entering the

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interior of the Earth. Bernard explains
that the holes have never been seen from

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the air because pilots are fooled by
their compasses into believing they are crossing the

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pole when they are actually following the
hole's magnetic rim. Thus, aircraft never

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really fly over the geographic poles,
which naturally mark the centers of the holes

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themselves. How convenient anything you have
that can measure things is right? Actually,

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the like google one the picture of
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pictures and I still can't really picture
it, you know what I mean?

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So what's in the home. There's
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that there are giant animals, dinosaurs, or maybe King Kong, like Coji

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was saying, we read about a
super advanced alien civilization where people lived for

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eight hundred years. Others believe there
was an ancient Viking civilization, and some

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even think the Nazison has been hiding
out there since the second one. I

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mean, I love, I love
Nazis, not not in the Nazi sort

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of way. But my agent and
I have a joke that the first thing

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whenever I turn in a script that's
a spec script. So Tony now hired

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me. The first question you asked
me is are there Nazi jokes or Nazis

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in the right right And my answer
is yes. His first thing is you

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have to get rid of it rights
like a Nazi joke in that and then

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I have to like take it out
because sometimes it's like non appropriate. I

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mean most of the time it's not
appropriate, but there's always like a Nazi

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reference, not like a not pro
Nazi joke obviously like a yeah, anti

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naz joke, but I love like
talking about Nazis. So now that this

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has a Nazi joke, Nazi thing, this is. This is definitely my

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my favorite theory. One joke that
I feel like we've done on the game

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show, but I don't think it's
ever made it to air, but we

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whenever it is Nazis. It's a
joke that someone makes and we write it

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in a database. But it doesn't
seem to go anyway. But the joke

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would go something like this like,
oh, Nazis, I did not see

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that coming. That's it. So
I had to be here from that,

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I can't see it, but I'm
cringing. So who are the famous people

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who believe that the Earth is hollow? Wow? We couldn't find any,

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so but if you know any,
please let us know because I'd love to

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find out anybody who does. Well. Ask chat GPT again what they think

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chat GPT is the Earth hollow?
No, the Earth is not hollow.

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The Earth is a solid, rocky
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solid inner core, a liquidator core, a mantle, and a crust.

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This structure has been extensively studied and
confirmed by various scientific methods, including seismic

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waves that proplagate through the Earth in
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Additionally, the laws of physics stick
hit. Then a hollow earth would not

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be able to maintain its shape or
stability, as it would collapse under the

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force of gravity. Therefore, the
idea of a hollow earth is a myth

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that has no scientific basis. Your
last theory has the Earth been sucked into

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a black hole? So this is
a fun one, but conspiracy goes something

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like this. When good scientists at
the European Organization for Nuclear Research AKACERN discovered

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the Higgs boson, we had no
idea what that is, so we googled

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it and found this explanation on the
Department of Energy website, which, to

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be honest, we're still not really
sure what I mean, but here you

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go, the Higgs boson. The
Higgs boson is the fundamental particle associated with

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the Higgs field, a field that
gives men us to other fundamental particles such

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as electrons and quarks. A particle's
mass determines how much it resists changing its

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speed or position when it encounters a
force. So there you go. I

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think it's is equivalent to the God
particle. Yes, yeah, yes,

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so I think it's just like maybe
the smallest piece of sort of matter that

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we've ever, you know, because
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the nucleus or electrons would yeah yeah. But now we've we've gone deeper,

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smaller than quarks. Yeah yeah,
yeah anny much so. Okay, So

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when they discovered the Higgs boson,
they accidentally created a black hole, essentially

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ending the world in two thousand and
twelve. Crazy thing is we still have

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not realized it. I don't do
The thing is I think because Prince saying

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about nineteen ninety nine, I don't
think this would have happened in twenty and

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twelve because the Prince. I think
Prince would have been on this and the

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song would have been two party,
like it's two thou twelve. Very possible,

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very possible. But I do want
to chime in and say something about

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black holes. Now, my source
is actually just my ex boyfriend, but

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he's very smart. You can fact
check me. But what he told me,

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because I was scared, like I
would started having this anxiety. I'm

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like, what if they make a
black hole and we all get sucked into

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it? What he said is the
black holes that they make at CERN are

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so tiny that like the gravity all
around us makes them collapse. In on

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themselves in a matter of seconds.
So the concern that CERN would make a

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black hole that would suck us all
in is very much unfounded. But isn't

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that what a certain sidist will say, Are you sure can work for CERN?

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He didn't, but he is a
former marine and so who knows,

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maybe he works with the military.
Wouldn't that be a very violent kind of

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thing or reaction? Like, oh
absolutely, if we got sucked into a

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real black hole, like a big
one, like you would die instantly because

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the mass and the gravity, if
it basically like crushes everything. Pretty sure

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again, y'all can fact check me. Are just things Cat knows in her

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brain and forgot where she read them. Those are the best things, according

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to Popular Mechanics article, Some people
believe that the good folks at CERN are

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using the large Hadron collider open a
portal hell, or that the very least

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the collider is one of the seventh
feels the apocalypse, which will also a

377
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leash hell on Earth here. Others
believe the scientists are attempting to summon God

378
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or time travel like the time travel
one who are famous people known to believe

379
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that the Earth has been sucked into
a black hole. Again, we were

380
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:33.160
unable to find any celebrity who believes
this. If you're a celebrity, you

381
00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:37.599
don't want the world to stop you. You're wanting you living your best life

382
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.000
right again. If you know anyone
who believes this, please please let us

383
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:47.799
know. Finally, let's ask chat
GPT what they think. Chat my man,

384
00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.599
my mellow. Has the Earth been
sucked into a black hole? No,

385
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.480
the Earth has not been sucked into
a black hole. If the Earth

386
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were to be sucked into a black
hole, we would see some very significant

387
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and note visible effects, including changes
in the Earth's orbit and the behavior of

388
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objects in our solar system. There
are no indications that such effects are occurring,

389
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and all available evidence suggests that the
Earth is not in danger of being

390
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sucked into a black hole. Black
Holes are incredibly massive objects that warp space

391
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and time around them, but they
are also very far away from our solar

392
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system, and it is extremely unlikely
that the Earth will ever come close enough

393
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.160
to a black hole to be pulled
in. Thank you, Chad GPT.

394
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:33.160
So all right, what do you
guys think? Is there a flat hollow?

395
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Has it sucked into a black hole? When we return, we'll put

396
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our minds together and figure out what
really maybe happened. Now that we've discussed

397
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.680
the facts, let's give our theories. All right. Here's the thing.

398
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:52.319
The hollow Earth and the black hole
are a little too much for me to

399
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:55.000
even deal with, right, But
I will say this. I wish I

400
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:59.759
could say and stand on the Earth
being flat. I really wish I could,

401
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:07.440
because I just feel like flat earths
will buy more merch. I feel

402
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:10.480
like if I did a show and
some flat earths were there, they're gonna

403
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.640
buy out all my shirts. Oh
nice. I just feel like there'd be

404
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:18.279
a bonding there alas though I can't. I can't sell it. I can't

405
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.960
sell out just to sell shirts that
I don't have. So here's what I

406
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.799
think of the whole thing. In
a way, they're all wrong. In

407
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.400
a way they're all right. And
that is because this whole thing is a

408
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:34.640
simulation, So all the rules are
governed by the person thing beings who created

409
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:41.039
a simulation. It's almost like like
some alien kids somewhere is playing a game.

410
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.519
And that's why I like things keep
getting harder, because he's getting to

411
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:48.359
the harder levels, you know what
I mean? And so is the Earth

412
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.359
flat? Is it? Hollow always
have we been sucked into a black hole?

413
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.319
That all depends on the simulation,
you know, like the loop.

414
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.720
The rules that govern our what we
think is universe are like you know,

415
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:04.680
you like you write, you write
a program, you like you create parameters

416
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.920
and things up front, you know, Like, so I think we're all

417
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:12.000
in a simulation. In our simulation
though the world is around for sure,

418
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.960
But I imagine it'd be too hard
to change that at this point, just

419
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:18.960
because I think we don't lose our
shit if we if you know, that

420
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.519
changed. But I think this is
a simulation, so all these things can

421
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:30.559
happen if the program changes. One
way to say it, I guess maybe

422
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.279
maybe you could even say God as
the programmer. I don't know. Ye,

423
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.160
that's true, that's true. Yes, there you go, right,

424
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:40.000
yeah, okay, Well I was
going to say originally, because everything I

425
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:41.480
do is around Asian Asian Americans,
right, so as they're just going to

426
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.079
say that we live in the we
live in the hollow earth, and we

427
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.119
came out, we only come out
once in a while. But but I'm

428
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:51.799
not going to do that because that
would I mean, you're right, okay,

429
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:53.039
so this is my theory. Then
we have been sucked into the black

430
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.359
hole. And it explains a lot
of the things. I was a polyci

431
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:57.960
major, and it explains a lot
of things that I see that are like

432
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:03.039
go against everything that we used to
believe. Like people vote for their interests.

433
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.880
You know that that we're trying to
always you know, like we're trying

434
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:08.960
to become a better and more just
society. You know that got changed in

435
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.920
the last I know that is so
true, Like all of a sudden,

436
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.400
everybody's like, oh yeah, progress, screw that, we don't care an

437
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.480
he's saying it kind of coincides with
twenty twelve. Yeah, like kind of

438
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.839
the but like all the things,
you know, like for example, when

439
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.799
we were when we were young,
we assume that our lives were going to

440
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:27.200
get better. We're gonna get a
bigger house and more stuff. I mean,

441
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.279
you know, like everyone's like every
family, like you know, every

442
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.559
generation is gonna get better and better, We're gonna live longer. But in

443
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.039
fact, like you know, we're
we're not living as long anymore our older

444
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.759
generations. We're happy we have less
stuff, you know, so all we

445
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.880
like tiny did we decrease in size
but we don't know it? Yeah,

446
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.319
yeah, so so the whole thing
is that everything we thought is just now

447
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:49.880
the opposite. And that's why that's
where the black hole is. You know,

448
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.720
that's why people like you know,
Donald Trump could become president because you

449
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.680
know, a guy who's like,
basically I don't think could read appreciate read

450
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:07.240
because of a black hole we put
in an a hole. Yeah yeah,

451
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.440
I'm not a comedian, but my
joke has always been like, I should

452
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:14.559
be in the Republican Republican phase of
my life, right the house older,

453
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.839
I should be a conservative old man. Right. But the problem is I

454
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.680
know what team I plan on,
right, but also that party it went

455
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.000
it went left, like it that
that party is kind of doesn't know what

456
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.559
it wants to be anymore, right
Yeah, yeah, and everything everything's changed

457
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.400
and the things that I learned as
that that were the way it was and

458
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.279
it would never change, not left
politically, if you're listening, just left,

459
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:38.440
like, yeah, I went,
I went a different way. Yeah.

460
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.559
Interesting. So you really you really
took this question and took it and

461
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:48.240
made it not literal like this is
you are a writer. So in this

462
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.039
black hole we've been sucked into,
right before we got sucked into it,

463
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.960
were we living on a round planet
or flat planet. It wasn't hollow.

464
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.640
Yeah, I don't even know.
That's that's all good question. I just

465
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:04.559
know that now. Gosh, I
mean, i'd love to agree with that.

466
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.839
I don't know that it's a black
hole. But something went weird for

467
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:15.160
sure around twenty twelve twenty sixteen.
Somewhere around there, everything just like reversed

468
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:21.799
and people started being Nazis. Again. Let's see what is my theory?

469
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.880
So I'm much more literal person.
I did not think about anything philosophical here.

470
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.400
My theory is this, and let's
I'm going to go buy process of

471
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.599
elimination. First of all, I
actually do believe in scientists and institutions.

472
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.319
Oh no, I think a lot
of people decide that they don't want to

473
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:42.359
believe in that. And it's largely
because there are a lot of religious people

474
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:48.119
in the world. And something happened
in the two thousands where the shift there

475
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.680
was a shift about like how people
felt about science and religion. There are

476
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:56.640
these like atheist activists, speakers like
Richard doc and Sam Harris, who were

477
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.480
like, you either believe in science
or believe in God, and if you

478
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.880
try to do both, you're stupid. And then side note, also believing

479
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:12.240
God makes you stupid, and I
remember I remember being a teenager at that

480
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.480
time and feeling really hurt by that
because I was also really religious. And

481
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:20.279
while I managed to kind of like
overcome that and like, like, you

482
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.200
know what, I'm going to believe
anyway, And even if they say I'm

483
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.000
dumb, I don't think I'm dumb. But I think a lot of the

484
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:29.920
rest of the country grew to resent
that, and then they went, all

485
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.079
right, you say I have to
choose between believing in God and believing in

486
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:37.799
science. Screw you. I pick
God, so screw science. And I

487
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:43.799
think that is kind of like the
birth of everything falling apart and people deciding

488
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.519
they don't want to believe in institutions
is people deciding, okay, any if

489
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.759
you're religious, you're stupid, and
they're like, all right, you want

490
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.119
to say I'm stupid, Well,
then I don't believe a word you say,

491
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.880
and from there it falls apart.
And I think people deciding that the

492
00:32:54.880 --> 00:33:00.279
Earth is flat just comes from that. It comes from not wanting to believe

493
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.799
all that because they also don't want
to feel like they're stupid. I,

494
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.480
for one think Sam Harris and Richard
Dawkins and all those influencers who said people

495
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:13.640
who had to choose between God and
science, Like all those guys, just

496
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.160
because they say believe men God makes
you stupid doesn't mean it's true. They're

497
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:22.319
just two guys. Their opinion doesn't
really matter. So I choose to continue

498
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.160
being both. I won't let someone
calling me an idiot for my religious beliefs

499
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.599
caused me to completely throw out science
and progress and a lot of things that

500
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:35.880
have done a lot of good in
the world. So long story short,

501
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.839
I believe the Earth is round because
I believe in science. But it's but

502
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:45.240
it's hollow and full of magma and
hot things. And I met like a

503
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.599
twenty two year old like geology major, and she was like, yeah,

504
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.359
it's definitely full, and I'm like, cool, I believe you know how

505
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.640
to think too. Is that?
Like the reason why I went with the

506
00:33:54.720 --> 00:34:00.559
simulation thing is because of we talked
about the God particle and like matter is

507
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:06.119
just sort of like energy, you
know, like matters energy in a sort

508
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:09.119
of form that you can measure.
Excuse me, yeah, yeah, matters

509
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.760
energy in the form you can measure. So I feel like some things are

510
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.920
beyond our comprehension. And one theory
is that, like you know, we're

511
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:20.559
on a piece of paper or something, you know what, meaning like you

512
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:25.519
have a nucleus and electrons spin around
it sort of like that that nucleus is

513
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:30.800
like a son and the electrons or
stars or whatever. So you know,

514
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.039
we're just a molecule or on something. And you know, but if that

515
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:38.400
were if something like that existed,
that means on every every piece of paper,

516
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:45.559
every every thing, there's another whole
system of beings and living. You

517
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.960
know. That sounds a little crazy, but I just think that it's so

518
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.679
beyond our comprehension that like almost whatever
you whatever, you think, it's fine,

519
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:57.880
except some things have been proven within
our realm. Like we know the

520
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.719
world is flat, we know it's
not hollow. Other world's flat. I

521
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:06.679
mean, excuse me, round,
excuse me. We know the world is

522
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:07.960
around, we know it's not hollow, we know we haven't missed it into

523
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:12.199
a black hole. I don't think
we know how we fit into the rest

524
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.960
of the galaxy next necessarily, but
just because we don't know, it doesn't

525
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.239
mean we, Like I agree with
you in the sense that you can't just

526
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.679
throw out everything you know, like
not knowing one thing doesn't mean everything you've

527
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.960
sort of proven up to this point
is wrong, even if it's not in

528
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.559
the right context. Yeah, I
was. I was talking on the phone

529
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:32.559
to some really cute guy the other
day and very smart, and we were

530
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:42.800
talking a little bit philosophically. When
do we talk on the phone. No,

531
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.559
but so I was talking to this
guy and he's really into like philosophy,

532
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:47.800
and he's like, well, anything
is possible. So like you could

533
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.920
wake up tomorrow and there's no gravity
in the world, just like floating around.

534
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.760
I'm like, you can't exist in
that. I acknowledge that in theory

535
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:01.440
everything is possible in fear, but
we got to compartmentalize the things that are

536
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:07.480
true. Like theoretically, yeah,
theoretically we could just be ant size and

537
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.840
we are really all just a molecule
onto something else, and that's just a

538
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:15.679
molecule on something else. Like yeah, theoretically maybe, But then there's what

539
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:17.440
we can prove in the here and
then now, and we kind of got

540
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:22.000
to live there because if you live
in the world of infinite possibilities in your

541
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.400
brain, your brain's going to break
and you can't function in data time.

542
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.639
I agree, I agree, I
feel like same thing with time travel.

543
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.000
You know, people always want to
say time isn't linear. I'm like,

544
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:35.440
it's not, yeah, but I
experience it. I experience it in a

545
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:37.119
linear fashion. So that's all I
have to go on, you know what

546
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.920
I mean? I got like writing
stories and and well that's the same thing

547
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.559
with flat earthers though, as they
say, well when I look, it's

548
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:46.119
flat. I get that, right, except that if you if you've been

549
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:52.639
on an airplane and the horizon,
explain the horizon, because if if the

550
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:58.000
world was flat, but see Australia
just looking. But it's all about perception,

551
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.480
right, right. If we only
go with what we perceive, a

552
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.039
lot of times what we perceive is
wrong. I mean, I guess that's

553
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:07.239
where you have to kind of extend
it far enough outside of just yourself and

554
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:12.039
your own perception to like, collectively
as a people, as humanity, we've

555
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.239
been able to prove X, Y
and Z, So we can't just limit

556
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:16.679
it to like what you see in
front of your own eyes, because we're

557
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:21.280
not like two year olds, where
like I can't Oh my god, Coji,

558
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.880
where did you go I'm looking away
from? Okay, Well, here

559
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:28.559
let me ask you a question,
then yes, if a person has no

560
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:32.599
grew up with no senses, did
they have a thought if they would no

561
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.679
sense? They grew up with no
senses, so no, they couldn't hear,

562
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:38.880
they couldn't speak, they couldn't feel
or touch. You mean, like

563
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.719
they were like some sort of vegetable. Yeah, but they're all o their

564
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.360
needs are met. Say, oh, okay, you're saying from the day

565
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:49.239
they from the day they were born. Right, So with that person have

566
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.199
a thought, yeah, I think
so, well, they couldn't feel anything.

567
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.519
Someone was talking, Is someone talking
to them? They they can't hear.

568
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.679
They can't hear, but they can't
hear actually just saying yeah, I

569
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.840
think you need the language. So
this is one of the biggest things in

570
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.719
philosophic And they can't feel, well, they can't feel. Yeah, So

571
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:10.239
like, is our knowledge from our
six senses or are they from five five

572
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:16.639
senses or are you psych five senses
or are they something that's inherent like God

573
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:22.519
or you know, or spiritual or
because if it's if it is truly just

574
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.039
what we feel, then you're you
know, through our senses. Then is

575
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:29.440
something said something else about who we
are as people? Right versus something that's

576
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.840
inherent or god like. Well,
it's like do animals dream right through?

577
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:38.559
And I think they might dream,
definitely dreams. So a person is born

578
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:44.480
and they can't hear, can't see, feel touched, but they're living.

579
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:46.760
Yeah, can you have a thought
if you've never interacted with the world,

580
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:52.639
because my thoughts are processed through language, Like I've never had a thought that

581
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.079
wasn't language. I mean they've had
a feeling, like I've had a gut

582
00:38:55.159 --> 00:39:00.840
feeling about something, or maybe I
feel anxiety your baby. You have a

583
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:02.280
thought and you don't have language that
you're like I think, but you still

584
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.519
have that you're interacting. Though you're
interacting with something, you're still feeling a

585
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.800
sense of like there's poop on my
diaper, and there's poop on my butt.

586
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:14.400
It is hot and wet and nasty, and I don't like the smell.

587
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:15.840
Yeah, I don't know. I
think I think they'd have have a

588
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.960
thought only because like I'm thinking if
the if their heart is beating in their

589
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.639
things are like their body is still
functioning. I don't know if they're eating

590
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:28.639
or not. Like they might feel
pain in their stomach and make sounds because

591
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.920
they feel pain. There's no right
answer, you like, there's right answer,

592
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:35.320
but I mean it's it comes down
as a test, it comes it

593
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:37.679
comes down to belief though, right, I mean, it's it's very much

594
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.159
a belief thing, especially like you
know, I mean religious people would tend

595
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:45.360
to believe because that there's a there's
a spirit. Yeah, they believe in

596
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:49.920
a soul and soul with no language, and that they would have they would

597
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.320
be able to have a thought despite
not interacting with the physical world, right,

598
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:58.679
whereas a science like a scientist in
the traditional scientists sort of way,

599
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:00.559
in that dichotomy between you know,
you can't believe in God and your scientists

600
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:05.440
would believe that there's none right,
that everything we do is interacting with us,

601
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:07.639
and if it doesn't interact with us, it doesn't exist, Like that's

602
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:12.400
why God can't exist, right in
that way. I'm not arguing either way,

603
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.599
but it's it's interesting. I personally
believe that they would have a thought.

604
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.440
That's just me interesting. Yeah,
No, I think they would have

605
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:22.079
feelings, but not thoughts. So
we're at the point in the show where

606
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.320
we need to pick the unofficial official
story, one that will once and for

607
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.159
all answer this question. What do
you guys think, which theory do we

608
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:36.599
want to go with? Well?
Mine obviously, Well, I think yours

609
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:40.800
if I'm hearing right, is that
like the world is round and we're not

610
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:45.320
in a black hole, and it's
not hollow. Yeah, it's not hollow

611
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.000
because we don't have evidence it's hollow. We're just like pulling that out of

612
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:51.480
our ass, right, which I
think is probably right. And I think

613
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.719
I didn't really sell mind as much
as I in my head. I think

614
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:55.679
I thought it was going to come
out a little smooth than it did.

615
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.119
But I like my simulation thing like
your relation, yeah, yeah, and

616
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.440
I use a vote for my my
own theory. I just think where Yeah,

617
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.039
because I really really like my everything's
gone to hell since twenty and twelve.

618
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:13.199
I like that. I can listen, I can I can be swayed

619
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.119
and you're but it's just that everything's
going to hell, Yes, but it's

620
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.360
due to a black hole, that's
the part. Yeah, I don't think

621
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.239
there's enough evidence to say that it
would be due to a black hole.

622
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:23.320
Like, if we're being super literal, I'm here for that though, I

623
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.199
can be I can be Okay,
Yeah, which one do you want?

624
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.400
You want to vote for? Yours? I'm voting for my own. So

625
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:35.400
we're all voting for our own the
first this is the first time and the

626
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.960
first time in our first time.
But but but so that means each one

627
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:44.360
of us actually this filibuster we find
ourselves in. Each each one of us

628
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:46.400
have the power to change it,
I'm saying, and will we Yes,

629
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:52.760
so I'm willing to change mine.
Because here's the thing. If we're in

630
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.280
a simulation, right then, I'm
basically saying, it doesn't even matter.

631
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.000
We're just we're on someone's computer.
We're on a hard drive right now.

632
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.239
Yeah, so we could have gone
into a black Hole's know what I'm saying.

633
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:04.679
Yeah, so why don't you just
do that? Yeah? I think

634
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:15.480
I will. Okay, we're in
a black hole. That's the official story,

635
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:22.719
though we solved it. What's what's
great about this theory is that we

636
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:29.360
compromised. Yeah, we came to
this theory. I'm so sad. What

637
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:34.599
a way to welcome me. And
I mean we could go with it is

638
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.480
what it is, But then that's
not as much not as not as fun

639
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:44.199
right yeah, yeah, yeah,
of course I'm boring. And that's the

640
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.800
official story. We'll take another break
and when we return we'll ask some fun

641
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:53.840
Earth Day questions. So this month
we're celebrating Earth Day. Suppose one of

642
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:58.239
these radical ideas could save the Earth
from disaster. Which one would you guys

643
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:01.639
choose and why? The first one
is no more meat you can only your

644
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.840
only source of protein would be fried
crickets. The next one is no more

645
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.119
single car rides. You've got to
ride with people from the opposite political party

646
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:14.199
in cars. Yea an actual car
carska, And that there ones kill half

647
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.559
the people on the planet randomly all
off things. Which one would you guys

648
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.840
choose? And wise? And no
brainer? Which one the crickets the crickets?

649
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:22.800
Yes, yeah, yes, because
I don't want to kill half the

650
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:27.599
planet. I don't want you don't
You don't know who's gonna some groovy people.

651
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.119
You might lose some groovy people.
Yeah. What if you snapped it

652
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.800
and it was everybody who you like
died and only the people you hated stick

653
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:36.800
are exactly exactly, And then I
don't want to be in a car with

654
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.480
someone in the political party, right
because there's no guarantee they they're just gonna

655
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:45.360
like not talk. Yeah. Also, like, how like what if they're

656
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.559
so opposite politically that they're like insane, Like what if like what if it's

657
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.599
one of those people in Idaho who's
like moving to corn away and districts,

658
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.440
you know what I mean. And
also I don't really love crickets, you

659
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:59.880
know what I mean. And so
if I could go without seeing one because

660
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.119
eating them, you know what I
mean. So I've killed my share of

661
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:07.599
crickets with what do you call it? Yeah, I just I'd rather just

662
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.039
not do with them. But I'm
okay eating as long as they're properly cooked,

663
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:13.880
like because if you think about it, like the only reason we're not

664
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.480
grossed out by meat is because it's
normal. But the other day, like

665
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.000
a couple of months, I just
moved on my mom's house. So I'm

666
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.039
cooking for myself for the first time
in my life, and I bought a

667
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:27.559
rotisserie chicken and I'd never like taken
it apart before, and I was gonna

668
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.519
make chicken salad. And as I'm
like taking it apart doing this for the

669
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.039
first time, I actually got really
sad for the chicken. And I was

670
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.519
like, this is terrible. This
little thing like feel its little legs,

671
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.920
I feel like my dogs little legs, Like this is really upsetting. No,

672
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.079
so I would go with crickets could
be great. We just have to

673
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:49.920
normalize eating crickets and they could be
really good. Like you could start out

674
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:54.320
normalizing things like cricket nuggets where it's
like a pure soft and we already have

675
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:58.199
cricket burkers. I just did a
question about Yeah there is, yeah,

676
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.880
cricket burkers. Yeah, there's a
restaurant in Lati hears crickets. I need

677
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.000
to go. It's actually way healthier
for the world, Is that right,

678
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.679
Like cows are like one of the
most Like cows are way worse than Wayne.

679
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.159
I have a question, yes,
because you're you're a single guy,

680
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:15.480
right, yes, okay, so
are you look at me? You meet

681
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.599
a great lady, really gorgeous.
Thing is at home? She cooks instead

682
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:22.920
of meat, everything cricket based.
Is that a deal breaker? No?

683
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.960
No, I'm cool with that.
Ye pull up if ever, like you're

684
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.000
like, okay, perfect, But
if you get married the rest of your

685
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.639
life you're gonna be getting cricket meat. Well, I guess it depends on

686
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.840
how it tastes, but yeah,
I can. I'm okay with that,

687
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.440
assuming she knows how to make it
properly. Yeah, I'm Okay, am

688
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.719
I am I wrong for wanting the
thane. You're not wrong, it's just

689
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:45.159
who are we gonna lose? So
okay, so I have to have two

690
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.760
things about that, Okay. So
yeah, First, maybe the people I

691
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.400
don't like will be dead awesome for
me, okay, right, and then

692
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.159
the people that I love die.
I could just go you know, like

693
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:58.320
in the movie in the TV show
like the Matyrs, in the sense,

694
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.840
well, I can go crazy and
start killing people like in you know in

695
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:06.119
Marble, who's the arrow guy?
Who's the arrow guy? Yeah he's but

696
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.559
whatever. His character went crazy and
started killing people for like five or six

697
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:12.159
years, right, and he was
just like this vigilante. And I'm like,

698
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.639
well that's I could just cut up
vigilante and just kill people that I

699
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.159
don't know how to shoot. True, you know. But but here's the

700
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.440
thing, Like, yeah, like
you're saying, cows they graze, they

701
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:27.199
take an insane amount of water,
insane amount of land. It's really inefficient.

702
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.679
But if we go to cricket round, which I'm here, you're still

703
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:32.679
here for the cricket. I'm here
for that, but people are so greedy,

704
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.599
like the average cricket might be like
I don't know the size of a

705
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.199
of a sticker or like, you
know, like two inches or something.

706
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:44.880
But the greed is going to take
over and then this giant one. Yeah,

707
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.400
they're gonna start giving them steroids.
And I think crickets are gonna be

708
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.760
like bigger than like footballs, and
it's gonna go back. It's gonna get

709
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:55.239
silly. But I think it would
take a couple hundred years exactly exactly.

710
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:59.320
Well, you know the world's problems. I mean, you know, I'm

711
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.639
gonna sound like the US, but
the world problems would be solved if there

712
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:05.519
is half the number of people,
Like we wouldn't have a water crisis.

713
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.960
Way, but the thing is,
well, warming wouldn't be an issue.

714
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.480
But also it'd be solved if everyone
stopped eating meat. True, but but

715
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.400
it'd also be well, would have
solved the water crisis in a way because

716
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.239
so much water, well, there's
less people to eat cows, so we

717
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.199
don't have you know, and won't
be as many cars in the road.

718
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:28.519
You want an unemployment problem, No, half the people aren't gone. The

719
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:31.679
only thing I don't like about that
theory is that I hope people say that,

720
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:35.440
and I don't have any data,
like it's like you were saying earlier,

721
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.719
can I have no data, but
I just have a feeling. And

722
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.000
that is when you say, like
normal car is this this? This as

723
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:46.400
is right now? Like of the
whole population, what percentage of the population

724
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:51.000
is using all the resources? Right? I think once China got on board,

725
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.880
then that kind of like threw everything
off. But even with China on

726
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:59.320
board, maybe half the people don't
have a car, don't eat a lot

727
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.079
of meat, Like it's only a
small percentage of the people who have a

728
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:07.079
lot of countries Ye, yeah,
in developing countries, which I don't think

729
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:08.760
that's the proper term anymore, but
I also don't know what the real world

730
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:14.360
term quite like the new PC term
is for developing. Developing sounds a lot

731
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.719
better than third world, I'll tell
you that much. But in developing nations,

732
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.440
people can't really afford meat or eating
meat every day. It's like a

733
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.400
special occasion thing, right, And
so like they're eating Latin America, you

734
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:28.400
get a lot of rice and beans. That's rice, beans, eggs,

735
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:34.159
and that's most meals. Tortillas that's
corn based or flower based and that and

736
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.679
that's what people eat. The biggest
issue with the Dato's one is in marvel

737
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:42.159
Cytamatic universe was that everyone's depressed.
They couldn't keep going on with their lives,

738
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:45.639
right because it wasn't like all of
a sudden everyone's disappear and you forgot

739
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.960
everybody. If I could stop my
fingers and everybody who like really really badly

740
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.440
want to kill themselves would be gone, I think that would be merciful.

741
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:58.639
That wouldn't be half the world,
but like that would be one where it's

742
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.159
like I would take the burden off
of them. I could justify that,

743
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.079
like they consent is important. I
mean, it'll be way better if I

744
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.000
could pick the people that die.
Yeah, maybe if they could opt in,

745
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.920
Like okay, you could sign up. Yeah, and that's hilarious.

746
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.400
You can opt in and then like
it's painless. You're just gonna not wake

747
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:24.280
up one day, all right.
Thank you all so much for listening.

748
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:29.039
There are almost three million podcasts out
there, and we are honored that you

749
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:34.920
chose to listen to ours. Please
check out our website Unofficial Official story dot

750
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.280
com for our show notes or to
hear our past episodes. Be sure to

751
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:44.559
come back next month, where we'll
answer the question where the smiley faced deaths

752
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:46.880
actually serial murders. Have you guys
heard of this case? These cases I

753
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:52.000
haven't so familiar. There's like a
bunch of usually men who go missing,

754
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.599
usually like they leave a bar and
then they and then they never found and

755
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.559
then they found usually near a body
of water, and then there's like a

756
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:02.360
happy face next to the body somewhere
somewhere near the body. But a lot

757
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:07.800
of people think it's just random or
some people think that there's actually these these

758
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.480
common deaths they have, like those
will take out things that say have a

759
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:15.239
night's day. Yeah, it's it's
it's kind of crazy, but it's because

760
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:20.320
it's a conspiracy. There's no like
actual evidence that it's happening, but some

761
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.960
people will truly believe that it's like
a thing. So I look forward to

762
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:25.480
diving into that. I know I
already have things to say, but I'm

763
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.079
gonna save them. Okay, perfect
building suspense. Well, thank you guys

764
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.559
so much. It was fun.
Thank you great, great first episode.

765
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.320
Absolutely all right guys. Bye,